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67 Elizabeth II , A.D. 2018, Canada

1st Session, 42nd Parliament

Issue 240 (Revised)

Thursday, October 25, 2018
1:30 p.m.

The Honourable GEORGE J. FUREY, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AndreychukAtaullahjanBattersBellemareBernardBeyakBlackBlack (Alberta)BoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBrazeauBussonCampbellCarignanChristmasCordyCoyleDalphondDaskoDawsonDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuffyEatonForestForest-NiesingFrancisFureyGalvezGoldGreeneGriffinHarderHousakosJoyalKlyneLankinLovelace NicholasMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinMarwahMassicotteMcCallumMcCoyMcInnisMercerMitchellMiville-DechêneMocklerMunsonNeufeldNgoOhOmidvarPattersonPetitclercPlettPratteRavaliaRichardsSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSinclairSmithTannasTkachukVernerWallinWellsWetstonWhite

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AndreychukAtaullahjanBattersBellemareBernardBeyakBlackBlack (Alberta)BoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBrazeauBussonCampbellCarignanChristmasCordy*CormierCoyleDalphondDaskoDawson*DayDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuffyEatonForestForest-NiesingFrancisFurey*GagnéGalvezGoldGreeneGriffinHarderHousakosJoyalKlyneLankinLovelace NicholasMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinMarwahMassicotteMcCallumMcCoyMcInnis*McIntyre*MégieMercerMitchellMiville-DechêneMockler*MoncionMunsonNeufeldNgoOhOmidvarPattersonPetitclercPlett*PoirierPratteRavaliaRichardsSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSinclairSmithTannasTkachukVernerWallinWellsWetstonWhite

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Tabling of Documents

The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., tabled the following:

Proposed draft Regulations Amending the Official Languages (Communications with and Services to the Public) Regulations, pursuant to the Official Languages Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. 31 (4th Supp.), s. 85.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2535.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2018-19.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2536.

Presenting or Tabling Reports from Committees

The Honourable Senator Andreychuk presented the following:

Thursday, October 25, 2018

The Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade has the honour to present its

NINETEENTH REPORT

Your committee, to which was referred Bill C-79, An Act to implement the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership between Canada, Australia, Brunei, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam, has, in obedience to the order of reference of Wednesday, October 17, 2018, examined the said bill and now reports the same without amendment but with certain observations, which are appended to this report.

Respectfully submitted,

A. RAYNELL ANDREYCHUK

Chair

Observations

to the Nineteenth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade (Bill C-79)

Taking into consideration the testimony heard during the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade’s (“the committee”) study of Bill C-79, as well as the findings in the committee’s report entitled Free Trade Agreements: A Tool for Economic Prosperity tabled on February 7, 2017, the committee makes the following observations for consideration by the Government of Canada:

1.The committee is aware, based on testimony and written submissions it received, that potentially adverse effects could impact the competitiveness of some Canadian industries, including in the agricultural sector, if Canada is not among the first six countries to ratify the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP). The committee recognizes the potential benefits of the CPTPP and understands the significance that Canada be among those first six countries to ratify the agreement to ensure that Canadian businesses are not put at a competitive disadvantage. The committee prepared for the study of Bill C-79 by reviewing its recent examination of benefits and challenges associated with free trade agreements (FTAs) as well as past experience studying various FTA implementation bills. The committee also closely monitored the work previously accomplished by the House of Commons Standing Committee on International Trade regarding the original Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and took into consideration analysis it received that compared changes between the CPTPP and the TPP.

2.In this instance, the committee understands the importance for Canada to be one of the first six ratifying countries of the CPTPP. Nevertheless, it reiterates that parliamentarians require sufficient time to study comprehensive, complex and technical FTA implementing legislation.

3.In addition, the committee notes the significance of regulations relevant to the implementation of an FTA, and underscores that the federal government should work closely with impacted stakeholders when developing those regulations. As well, considering that regulatory changes are not part of an FTA implementation bill, information regarding relevant regulations should be shared with parliamentarians in the context of their study of FTA implementing legislation.

4.Moreover, the committee insists on reiterating an observation from its 2017 report on FTAs: promoting trade is about much more than signing FTAs. In line with a recommendation made in that same report, the Government of Canada should develop a robust FTA implementation strategy designed to help Canadian businesses maximize the benefits of the CPTPP. Such a strategy should include the mobilization of federal trade promotion services to ensure that they are ready to fully support Canadian businesses interested in CPTPP markets. Such an implementation strategy should be made available as soon as possible after the agreement enters into force. The committee also emphasizes that coherence between trade and economic policies is critical to help Canadians compete and succeed in the global marketplace.

5.Furthermore, the Government of Canada should identify federal measures intended to mitigate the CPTPP’s potentially adverse impacts, including transition programs for Canadian workers and industries negatively affected by that FTA.

6.Finally, the Government of Canada should ensure that FTA provisions on labour rights and standards are consistently enforced, and that such provisions are designed in a manner that can meet their underlying objectives.

Ordered, That the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for third reading later this day.

Government Notices of Motions

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Campbell:

That the Address by His Excellency Mark Rutte, Prime Minister of the Netherlands, to Members of both Houses of Parliament, delivered Thursday, October 25, 2018, together with all introductory and related remarks, be printed as an appendix to the Debates of the Senate of this day and form part of the permanent records of this House.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Notices of Motions

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Mockler moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator MacDonald:

That, notwithstanding rule 12-15(2), the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance be empowered to hold occasional meetings in camera for the purpose of hearing witnesses and gathering specialized or sensitive information in relation to its study on military procurement, as authorized by the Senate on October 4, 2018.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Question Period

The Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Delayed Answers

Pursuant to rule 4-10(2), the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., tabled the following:

Reply to Question No. 99, dated June 20, 2018, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Boisvenu, respecting Aboriginal nations whose territories will be crossed by the Trans Mountain pipeline.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2537S.

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The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., tabled the following:

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on March 28, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Patterson, concerning telecommunications in northern communities.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2538S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on April 26, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Seidman, concerning the Cannabis Bill — regulations.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2539S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 6, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Ngo, concerning the participation of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam at G7 meetings.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2540S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 13, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Dagenais, concerning the Canadian mission in Iraq.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2541S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 19, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Ngo, concerning Vietnam — cybersecurity.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2542S.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Bills – Third Reading

Third reading of Bill C-79, An Act to implement the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership between Canada, Australia, Brunei, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam.

The Honourable Senator Marwah moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Sinclair, that the bill be read for a third time.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The bill was then read the third time and passed.

Ordered, That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed this bill, without amendment.

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Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Griffin, seconded by the Honourable Senator Christmas, for the second reading of Bill C-57, An Act to amend the Federal Sustainable Development Act.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted, on division.

The bill was then read the second time.

The Honourable Senator Griffin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Wells, that the bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Gold, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moncion, for the second reading of Bill C-59, An Act respecting national security matters.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator MacDonald, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 7 to 9 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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The Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C.:

That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption of this motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, October 30, 2018, at 2 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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The Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C.:

That, in order to allow the Senate to receive a Minister of the Crown during Question Period as authorized by the Senate on December 10, 2015, and notwithstanding rule 4-7, when the Senate sits on Tuesday, October 30, 2018, Question Period shall begin at 3:30 p.m., with any proceedings then before the Senate being interrupted until the end of Question Period, which shall last a maximum of 40 minutes;

That, if a standing vote would conflict with the holding of Question Period at 3:30 p.m. on that day, the vote be postponed until immediately after the conclusion of Question Period;

That, if the bells are ringing for a vote at 3:30 p.m. on that day, they be interrupted for Question Period at that time, and resume thereafter for the balance of any time remaining; and

That, if the Senate concludes its business before 3:30 p.m. on that day, the sitting be suspended until that time for the purpose of holding Question Period.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Inquiries

Order No. 3 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other Business

Bills – Messages from the House of Commons

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Senate Public Bills – Third Reading

Orders No. 1 to 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1 to 6 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Wallin, seconded by the Honourable Senator Boniface, for the second reading of Bill S-252, Voluntary Blood Donations Act (An Act to amend the Blood Regulations).

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The bill was then read the second time.

The Honourable Senator Wallin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercer, that the bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 8 to 10 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Sinclair, seconded by the Honourable Senator Pratte, for the second reading of Bill C-374, An Act to amend the Historic Sites and Monuments Act (composition of the Board).

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dalphond, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 6 and 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Private Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees – Other

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Order No. 5 (Sixth report of the Special Senate Committee on Senate Modernization) was called and, pursuant to rule 4-15(2), dropped from the Order Paper and Notice Paper.

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Orders No. 6 and 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Ordered : That Order No. 5 be again called.

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Tannas, seconded by the Honourable Senator Wells, for the adoption of the sixth report (interim) of the Special Senate Committee on Senate Modernization, entitled Senate Modernization: Moving Forward (Speakership), presented in the Senate on October 5, 2016.

The Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 8 and 50 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Consideration of the twenty-fourth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce, entitled Canada: Still open for business?, tabled in the Senate on October 16, 2018.

The Honourable Senator Black (Alberta) moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Bovey:

That the twenty-fourth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce, tabled on Tuesday, October 16, 2018, be adopted and that, pursuant to rule 12-24(1), the Senate request a complete and detailed response from the government, with the Minister of Finance being identified as minister responsible for responding to the report.

The Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Black (Ontario), that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Motions

Orders No. 73, 89 and 146 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Merchant, seconded by the Honourable Senator Housakos:

That the Senate call upon the government of Canada:

(a) to recognize the genocide of the Pontic Greeks of 1916 to 1923 and to condemn any attempt to deny or distort a historical truth as being anything less than genocide, a crime against humanity; and

(b) to designate May 19th of every year hereafter throughout Canada as a day of remembrance of the over 353,000 Pontic Greeks who were killed or expelled from their homes.

The Honourable Senator Gold moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Bovey, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 189, 215 and 245 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Order No. 286 was called and, pursuant to rule 4-15(2), dropped from the Order Paper and Notice Paper.

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Orders No. 302, 310, 325, 328, 357 and 358, and 371 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Order No. 8 was called and, pursuant to rule 4-15(2), dropped from the Order Paper and Notice Paper.

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Orders No. 12, 20, 24 and 26 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Bovey, calling the attention of the Senate to the crisis in Churchill, Manitoba.

Debate concluded.

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Orders No. 36, 39 and 40 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Order No. 43 was called and, pursuant to rule 4-15(2), dropped from the Order Paper and Notice Paper.

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Orders No. 45 to 47, 52 and 56 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator Black (Alberta) moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mitchell:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce be permitted, notwithstanding usual practices, to deposit with the Clerk of the Senate, between October 26 and November 16, 2018, a report relating to its study on issues and concerns pertaining to cyber security and cyber fraud, if the Senate is not then sitting, and that the report be deemed to have been tabled in the Senate.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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The Honourable Senator Galvez moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Forest:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources have the power to meet at 5 p.m. on Tuesday, October 30, 2018, even though the Senate may then be sitting, and that rule 12-18(1) be suspended in relation thereto.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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The Honourable Senator Griffin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Christmas:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry have the power to meet on Tuesday, November 6, 2018, at 5 p.m., even though the Senate may then be sitting, and that rule 12-18(1) be suspended in relation thereto.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.


At 3:56 p.m., pursuant to rule 16-1(8), the sitting was suspended to await the announcement of Royal Assent, to reassemble at the call of the Chair with a five minute bell.

At 4:27 p.m., the sitting resumed.

WRITTEN DECLARATION OF ROYAL ASSENT

At 4:27 p.m., the Honourable the Speaker pro tempore informed the Senate that the following communication had been received:

RIDEAU HALL

October 25th, 2018

Mr. Speaker:

I have the honour to inform you that Ms. Assunta Di Lorenzo, Secretary to the Governor General and Herald Chancellor, in her capacity as Deputy of the Governor General, signified royal assent by written declaration to the bills listed in the Schedule to this letter on the 25th day of October, 2018, at 3:51 p.m.

Yours sincerely,

Marie-Geneviève Mounier

Associate Secretary to the Governor General

The Honourable

The Speaker of the Senate

Ottawa

Schedule

Bills Assented To

Thursday, October 25, 2018

An Act to amend the Canada Labour Code (harassment and violence), the Parliamentary Employment and Staff Relations Act and the Budget Implementation Act, 2017, No. 1 (Bill C-65, Chapter 22, 2018)

An Act to implement the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership between Canada, Australia, Brunei, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam (Bill C-79, Chapter 23, 2018)

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Smith:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 4:30 p.m., the Senate was continued until Tuesday, October 30, 2018, at 2 p.m.)

DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)

Tenth report (interim) of the Standing Senate Committee on Official Languages, entitled Modernizing the Official Languages Act - The Views of Official Language Minority Communities, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on October 25, 2018, pursuant to the orders adopted by the Senate on April 6, 2017 and October 18, 2018.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2534S.


Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry

The Honourable Senator Doyle replaced the Honourable Senator Martin (October 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Martin replaced the Honourable Senator Doyle (October 24, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce

The Honourable Senator Mockler replaced the Honourable Senator Dagenais (October 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Wallin replaced the Honourable Senator Duffy (October 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Campbell was added to the membership (October 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Campbell was removed from the membership of the committee, substitution pending (October 24, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Frum replaced the Honourable Senator Neufeld (October 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator McIntyre replaced the Honourable Senator MacDonald (October 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Dupuis replaced the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne (October 25, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on National Finance

The Honourable Senator Moncion replaced the Honourable Senator Dalphond (October 25, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence

The Honourable Senator McIntyre replaced the Honourable Senator Doyle (October 24, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The Honourable Senator Poirier replaced the Honourable Senator Mockler (October 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Mockler replaced the Honourable Senator Poirier (October 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Poirier replaced the Honourable Senator Marshall (October 25, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Mégie replaced the Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario) (October 25, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications

The Honourable Senator Gagné replaced the Honourable Senator Forest-Niesing (October 25, 2018).

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